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  Jesus' Teachings - Helpful or Harmful?

  by jgnat in

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  spinning off from another thread, have jesus' teachings been less than universally helpful to mankind?

  how do we measure if a particular philosophy is helpful or harmful?.

  i am going to use the "universal morals" listed here.

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  Good morning, new hope and happiness:

  Thank you for the kind words. Wishing you and yours blessings and peace.

  CoCo
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  Jesus' Teachings - Helpful or Harmful?

  by jgnat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  spinning off from another thread, have jesus' teachings been less than universally helpful to mankind?

  how do we measure if a particular philosophy is helpful or harmful?.

  i am going to use the "universal morals" listed here.

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  Good morning, jgnat:

  I believe this bears on your question. Looking into the indigenous "religions" of many millenia ago, I have learned that wise and loving matriarchies were the norm until patriarchies invaded and wiped out the former. Dominator religions that allow no variety or self determination amongst their followers seem to present a mixed message, as already noted in this thread. Personally, I am in doubt about the Gospels -- who was Jesus and what did he really say?

  I have just received Not In His Image, by John Lamb Lash.

  Lash states that the four Gospels (NT) belong to a literary genre known as Hellenistic romance, a sort of novella consisting of miracles, supernatural signs, stock characters, etc. During the first century of the Christian era many of these novellas, which mixed fable and folklore with some realistic elements, were circulating.

  They were the pulp fiction of their time . . .

  NIHI, p.107

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/269178/1/The-Four-Gospels-Hellenistic-Romances#.Us6eJN0gqmA

  Thanks for reading.

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  The Four Gospels: Hellenistic Romances

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  greetings, friends:.

  i have just received not in his image, by john lamb lash.. lash states that the four gospels (nt) belong to a literary genre known as hellenistic romance, a sort of novella consisting of miracles, supernatural signs, stock characters, etc.

  during the first century of the christian era many of these novellas, which mixed fable and folklore with some realistic elements, were circulating.. they were the pulp fiction of their time .

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  Thank you, Phizzy, for the good points made. Yes, dear Leolaia opened our eyes to many incongruities.

  I'm reading now (same title) about the victim-perpetrator scenario and the redeemer complex.

  Heavy duty stuff!

  Gratefully,

  CoCo
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  The Four Gospels: Hellenistic Romances

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  greetings, friends:.

  i have just received not in his image, by john lamb lash.. lash states that the four gospels (nt) belong to a literary genre known as hellenistic romance, a sort of novella consisting of miracles, supernatural signs, stock characters, etc.

  during the first century of the christian era many of these novellas, which mixed fable and folklore with some realistic elements, were circulating.. they were the pulp fiction of their time .

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  Thank you, Xanthippe, for your reply.

  I no longer trust the axiom,"It has the ring of truth." I've become quite objective in my old age. Perhaps, skeptical?

  Best regards.

  CoCo
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  The Four Gospels: Hellenistic Romances

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
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  greetings, friends:.

  i have just received not in his image, by john lamb lash.. lash states that the four gospels (nt) belong to a literary genre known as hellenistic romance, a sort of novella consisting of miracles, supernatural signs, stock characters, etc.

  during the first century of the christian era many of these novellas, which mixed fable and folklore with some realistic elements, were circulating.. they were the pulp fiction of their time .

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  Greetings, Friends:

  I have just received Not In His Image, by John Lamb Lash.

  Lash states that the four Gospels (NT) belong to a literary genre known as Hellenistic romance, a sort of novella consisting of miracles, supernatural signs, stock characters, etc. During the first century of the Christian era many of these novellas, which mixed fable and folklore with some realistic elements, were circulating.

  They were the pulp fiction of their time . . .

  NIHI, p.107

  Have you read this?

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  What goes in the fridge?!?!?!?

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  once again, yahoo and the public answer important questions:.

  don't put potatoes in fridge as that makes them go sweet.. store milk in fridge's interior, not in door.. bread goes stale in fridge.. tomatoes undergo a change in texture if stored in fridge.. comments:.

  i keep my tomatoes in the can.. all i care about is keeping my beer cold.. well, you sure don't live where i do!

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  Hey, Dis:

  Well, they weren't lost, just misplaced!

  Thanks.

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  What goes in the fridge?!?!?!?

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  once again, yahoo and the public answer important questions:.

  don't put potatoes in fridge as that makes them go sweet.. store milk in fridge's interior, not in door.. bread goes stale in fridge.. tomatoes undergo a change in texture if stored in fridge.. comments:.

  i keep my tomatoes in the can.. all i care about is keeping my beer cold.. well, you sure don't live where i do!

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  Once again, Yahoo and the public answer important questions:

  Don't put potatoes in fridge as that makes them go sweet.

  Store milk in fridge's interior, not in door.

  Bread goes stale in fridge.

  Tomatoes undergo a change in texture if stored in fridge.

  Comments:

  I keep my tomatoes in the can.

  All I care about is keeping my beer cold.

  Well, you sure don't live where I do! My bread molds.

  Women belong in the kitchen where they can make sandwiches.

  Put ice in the freezer so it won't get watery.

  Where do I keep dead bodies?
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  WT Study Article Counsels JW’s To Be Humane Towards Disfellowshiped Ones

  by baldeagle in

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  2. friends

  wt august 1, 1974 pp.

  467-468 maintaining a balanced viewpoint toward disfellowshiped ones.

  5 it is right to hate the wrong committed by the disfellowshiped one, but it is not right to hate the person nor is it right to treat such ones in an inhumane way.suppose, then, a member of a christian congregation boating on a lake were to see another boat containing a disfellowshiped person capsize, throwing the disfellowshiped one into the water where he struggled to stay afloat.

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  Thank you, steve! I hadn't noticed.

  BTW, I attended such a KH with a steeply-inclined, dark stairway in NYC. I knew Brother Lang.

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  WT Study Article Counsels JW’s To Be Humane Towards Disfellowshiped Ones

  by baldeagle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  wt august 1, 1974 pp.

  467-468 maintaining a balanced viewpoint toward disfellowshiped ones.

  5 it is right to hate the wrong committed by the disfellowshiped one, but it is not right to hate the person nor is it right to treat such ones in an inhumane way.suppose, then, a member of a christian congregation boating on a lake were to see another boat containing a disfellowshiped person capsize, throwing the disfellowshiped one into the water where he struggled to stay afloat.

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  What does it mean to "keep Jehovah's organization clean"?
  
  [...] It means that those men will continue to apply with all due vigor whatever policy may be current and they will disfellowship anyone who does not adhere to that policy ... The main concern is to be obedient to Society policy. The feeling is created that 'if the organization tells us to do it we will not be held responsible by God if it is a mistake.' That same mentality has prevailed among men of many lands and in many periods who have excused themselves of guilt in serious injustice by the claim that "they were simply following orders from their superiors." Even the world's courts have rejected such an excuse. How much more should Christians reject it!

  The binding, restricting effect that this concern for organizational submission can have on person's minds was illustrated to me by an experience related by Robert Lang, then the assistant Bethel Home Overseer at the international headquarters. He had been transferred to a different congregation in the New York city area and he said that at one of the first meetings he attended there the elders approached him for advice. It seems that a young woman, the sister of one of the ministerial servants, was disfellowshiped and was still attending meetings. She had a small baby and brought it with her to the Kingdom Hall in a baby carriage. The Hall itself was on the second story of a building and the stairs were long and steep. The young woman would back up the stairs, pulling the baby carriage - with the baby in it - up the stairs as she went. The question the elders asked was whether it would be proper for the disfellowshiped woman's brother to assist her in getting up the stairs! Some thought so, others said, no, being disfellowshiped she should be considered as if she were not even there. To his credit, Lang said, "I don't know what the rule is on this, I only know one thing: if I'm around when she starts pulling that carriage up the stairs, I'm going to help her! When I think of what could happen if she were to stumble and lose control of the carriage ...."

  The most frightening thing about this is that adult men did not feel they could be guided by their own hearts and minds in a circumstance so obviously calling for human kindness. The pressing concern for them was - not the danger to the infant's life - but WHAT THE ORGANIZATION POLICY ALLOWED in such cases [emphasis: RF]. They gave evidence of having become emasculated men in matters of ethics, of right and wrong.

  Franz concludes by stating that Robert Lang was for him "the kind of person he was, not because of the organization, but in spite of the organization."

  IN SEARCH OF CHRISTIAN FREEDOM, Ray Franz, pp. 404, 405.
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  Boring Blockbusters

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  greetings, movie buffs:.

  i grew up with scary movies of the 1950s -- "the beast from 20,000 fathoms," "forbidden planet," "the thing" (howard hawkes).

  in "the thing," the audience gasped when the men surrounding the ice-encased object proved to be circular: a flying saucer!

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  DATA-DOG: Absolutely a Ray Harryhausen fan, here! Thanks for the reminder. I love the crisp black-and-white filming of 'Creature.'

  poppers: Thanks, but I cannot take total credit for my rephrasing of a movie reviewer's description of that episode. Every time I see the film, the musical and visual buildup to that gripping scene causes me to gasp, to shudder, . . .

  CHEERS!

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